Comments for Workers Party (NZ) Pro-Worker/Anti-Capitalist Wed, 06 Feb 2013 09:37:24 +0000 hourly 1 Comment on Charter schools: Against the interests of the majority of teachers and students by Jared Wed, 06 Feb 2013 09:37:24 +0000 Oh indignant Don surfaces again, choice.

Comment on Charter schools: Against the interests of the majority of teachers and students by Don Franks Wed, 06 Feb 2013 09:06:01 +0000 Ok Jared, thanks, I have registered the toxicity and temperature.
I will leave you in peace with your space.

Comment on Charter schools: Against the interests of the majority of teachers and students by Jared Wed, 06 Feb 2013 03:22:09 +0000 In fact at the same time as announcing the need for some sort of abstract revolution why not set out the type of post-revolutionary education system you would like to see at the same time.

You do that while we try and engage on the question of teachers and the community adopting socialist methods of struggle in a way that points towards socialist tasks.

Comment on Charter schools: Against the interests of the majority of teachers and students by Jared Phillips Wed, 06 Feb 2013 03:08:44 +0000 One would have to be half-idiot to think that there is a silver bridge from unionism to socialist revolution or socialism. In our view there is no seamless connection, as put above. But there has to be a means from getting from here to there, it does not involve silver, far from it, it’s actually an extremely difficult bridge, at the moment looking hugely difficult, particularly in NZ.

If an organisation isn’t pointing a way forward from the current objective circumstances in conjunction with building a working class political organisation then it’s just peddling abstract idealism about revolution and at the moment would be doing so in a period of lowered working class activity. That makes it sectarian ‘from the class’ and petty-bourgeois.

One of the shibboleths of your own petty-bourgeois blog is the downturn in class struggle. It is the premise upon which you hang your analysis. But the contradiction is that you seem to think a low level of class struggle means the correct strategy involves making the angriest demand for revolution. That is not approaching people where they are at, that is just isolating them from Marxism.

I wasn’t name calling you. I wouldn’t call any of your blog contributors petty-bourgeois. However the nature of your project is just that. Sectarian from the class, telling in-jokes about the left, and generally playing a mystifying role in regard to workers, youth, or others who wish to engage on the ideas of socialism.

Comment on Charter schools: Against the interests of the majority of teachers and students by Don Franks Tue, 05 Feb 2013 05:03:01 +0000 “A gap” .

” Bridging that gag”.

Perfectly put for joining the dots. Not so good I think for getting capitalism killed and replaced.

Call me what names you like Jared, there is no silver bridge from labour unionism to socialist revolution.

The New Zealand left has foundered on that forlorn hope.

When I get a moment I’ll try and set that idea out in a bit more detail.

Comment on Kiwibuild and housing in the modern capitalist economy by RossC Mon, 04 Feb 2013 05:31:51 +0000 This crisis is about the manipulation of the markets by a central authority. The flood of money into the global economy from government debt creation in the western world and japan has been the leading cause of the spike in house prices.

Japan is the source of most of the carry trade and American government debt supported spending has created a bubble of money that has flowed through the world.

This excess money lowered interest rates and coupled with deregulation of lending practices allowed banks to load the public with debt as they pursued growth in excess of actual economic growth. Everyone was happy with the idea that perpetual growth can be achieved with cheap money poured into houses.

So now we have different groups,an older group with capital gains and no debt who are happy for things to remain a middle group with large debt who want prices to rise and a lower group unable through income to raise the debt.

To maintain the current situation New Zealand imports people with money to continue the price rises or allows foreign ownership by people with a more direct line of access to this cheap money.

To fix the problem properly would result in pain to all current home owners.

A massive building program would create inflation leading to higher interest which would kill those with high debt and a high dollar would destroy exports, ultimately such a program would result in high government debt at some point this would crash our dollar. We would end with high inflation, high debt and no exporters.

To stop foreign and local speculation and allow house prices to revert to their natural levels would leave many with lower capital than they planned or with mortgages under water.

Either way any government is trapped that’s why nothing is done except blame councils or the RMA these are safe options as they may increase the boom temporarily.

This is why I suggest you encourage those on the right to continue their policies, it will result in misery and suffering it will result in pain and social breakdown but ultimately it will result in the collapse of the system that you despise. As they push their ideology to it’s limits the system will break down and they will turn towards alternatives either socialism or nationalism/militarism to fix what they have created. at this point you step forward.

Any attempt to fix the failings of the current system only extend it’s life.

Comment on Report: Summer Conference 2013 by Alec Morgan Sun, 03 Feb 2013 23:05:07 +0000 Trotskyites splash a lot of ink, toner and bytes about but they have a consistent line of “little progress has been made because we predicted little progress would be made due to X,Y,Z”

“Stalinism” usually equates to anti sovietism in the modern setting. Despite the fact that the USSR became a degenerate workers state they held the line against the yankee devils for decades.

Anyway “Fightback” sounds ok to me, (with an appropriate tagline). Mao said proceed from the concrete, dialectical materialism rules.

Comment on Bush fires and climate change by gpcox Sun, 03 Feb 2013 12:43:00 +0000 I don’t like to click “Like” on a disaster, but I did want to show my concern.

Comment on Charter schools: Against the interests of the majority of teachers and students by Grant Sun, 03 Feb 2013 11:56:48 +0000 Perfectly put, Jared.

Comment on Bush fires and climate change by Linda Sun, 03 Feb 2013 11:12:25 +0000 They won’t stop until we’re all dead.